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February 12, 2015

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Eric

Using YOUR logic Rob, those school shootings never happened because there were no guns there.

Makes just as much sense as what you wrote, doesn't it?

Wulfgar

But you're not using my logic, Eric. You're making shit up. Let me show you how it's really done:

Any logical argument starts with what is axiomatic, what is undeniably true. Like this:
School shootings happen and guns are used. Undeniable, right? For whatever reason, those who commit school shootings choose to do so and have access to the weapons used. Again, undeniable. The thinking, if it can be called that, of folks like Knudsen is that people who choose to shoot others are stopped by being shot by 'good guys'. That's certainly deniable. Sideshow Bob, the theater shooter in Denver shot 70 people killing 12, then walked to his car and gave up. The guy who shot Gabby Giffords was taken down by a crowd, even though some armed people were in attendance in that parking lot. Many of those shooters kill themselves. Are you going to tell me that it's logical in those cases to think that a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun? No, of course not. In almost every case where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun, the good guys were cops. In almost every case, with almost the rarest of exceptions, many innocent people still die before the good guy with a gun stops the bad guy.

So here's what we know for certain: The people who go on shooting sprees have two things, the will to do it and the access to the firearms. So please, Eric, instead of pulling pseudo-logic out of your butt, explain to me how increasing access to guns will stop shooters? This is actual logic, Eric, not a gunslinger fantasy or Knudsen's piss poor idea that fire extinguishers cause fires. The answer is clear: It won't.

Eric

IMO - those school shooters chose those places for a couple of reasons - (1) Lots of victims, (2) Because they knew they would have little chance of armed confrontation.

I just did some searching, and I cannot find a single case of a lawfully possessed and concealed firearm being illegally used, on school property, in Colorado, Utah, or Idaho, were the campus areas are NOT gun-free zones.

I'm probably a minority, but I would pony up for a mill-levy to keep a full time SWAT officer in every school over 100 students.

David

As they say guns don't kill people, people kill people. Guns by themselves don't do anything.

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