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September 07, 2004

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Kim

I have some thoughts, but I shall keep them to myself (re: this afternoon's conversation). But, I do agree with you on this one. *clap clap clap*

Jon

The fact that we even need to discuss this is proof 50% of the country is screwed. It's like a bad Steven Segal movie. I cna't even bear to sit through the turd, but the rest of the country just loves it.

Craig

"Anybody who thinks differently is either very stupid concerning history, or is a modern supporter of the Republican party (read "clueless")."

Perhaps you could point us out to some historical documents that support your claim that the U.S. was founded as a "socialist democracy."

You know, for those clueless folks out there.

Wulfgar

Craig, by changing the words "Republic based on Democratic socialism" to "socialist democracy", I think you profoundly change the meaning. The USSR was a socialist democracy (in theory), the USA has never been. We are, by political definition a representative republic. Though the term socialism wasn't used until the early nineteeth century, the ideologies were very in place at the founding of our country. The principles of egalitarianism regardless of social standing, of solidarity in the union, and social responsibility and equal application of justice, are the foundations of socialism as an ideology, and I already did post the support for that ... it exists in the Preamble to the Constitution.

For the record, Craig, your own writing has proven that you're not a very modern supporter of the Republican party. You do not support the FMA (regardless of the your well-spoken defenses of your beliefs concerning marraige). You do not support massive federal deficit spending. You do not support federal educational mandates. You do not appear to support a continuing erosion of fair-use law. All of these things you do not support are hallmarks of the Modern Republican party. This shows directly what I posted here, and what Chuck discusses here. I don't find you clueless, Craig. That's why I remain completely boggled as to where the depth of support for George Bush comes from.

Umaga

Cool blog. Go Kerry.

chuck rightmire

I think you've got it in one, Wulfgar. I believe that we don't have a Conservative- Liberal split in the country anymore. Rather, as I see it we have a strong reactionary right wing, a small number of conservatives squashed between the moderates and the reactionaries; the moderates who swing left to support the progressive-liberals on some issues and right to support the conservatives on the other. Then we have the radical lefists, who are actually a rather small group compared to the reactionaries. Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Kristol and others are among the reactionaries who go back to Roman times in their Project for an American Century to impose a pax Americana on the world.

-=e=-

Is it me, or does Bush use the word "homeland" an awful lot? "Good for the homeland." "Do it for the homeland"...

Sounds eerily familiar to another guy hellbent on dominating the world that used the word "fatherland".

Sure that irritates a lot of wingers who immediately fast forward to 1945, and skip all that stuff about the Reichstagg attack, the blind, sweeping patriotism, and how invading Poland & Chechoslovakia was necessary to protect the Fatherland and its future... And all that other fun stuff in between.

Look on the bright side. If SDI doesn't work, we can all blame Clinton or something.

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